[Transit] BATS monthly meeting Monday

[Wes Mills]

Yay!  I’m looking forward to it tomorrow, these are always fun. :)

Following-up on a few items (I figured put it all in one go instead of spamming replies a bunch of times):

Regarding the 512 and the change to include a couple of Sunday trips from downtown—like the 512 did before Northgate Station opened—when the tunnel is closed and Link doesn’t operate: I can’t find the survey that mentioned it as an option online any more, probably because these kinds of outreach sites are removed once the project is final.  (We should do a better job of archiving these.)  But I remember it coming up in a couple of outreach sessions during 2020 that not having midnight service on Sunday from downtown would be a service cut, particularly for service industry folks who work in downtown but live in Lynnwood and Everett.

Sound Transit came back in a later plan with the two added trips, half an hour apart (12:12am and 12:42am from Stadium Station), just on Sundays.  (And on days when Sunday service is operated.)  I haven’t been able to find ridership data by route and, frustratingly, Sound Transit’s monthly ridership data only counts *weekday* boardings.  I have a few other public records act requests to make, this would will probably be one of them.  But anecdotally, every time I’ve ridden the 512 up from downtown on Sunday, the bus has been at least a third full.

As far as overnight service of the 574 (Lakewood/SeaTac), I am still working on how to properly calculate service hours for a route but we can estimate how much it would cost per hour and take some rough guesses at how many service hours.  Thanks to the Seattle Transportation Benefit District, we know that Seattle pays King County <https://seattle.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=9179616&GUID=DDEDA357-3356-4189-B106-E0DFE0D9D6B8> $184.93 per service hour for STBD-paid service.  We used to get this number broken out by route (to make it easier to know what Night Owl service costs) but we didn’t get that this time.

There are a total of 17 trips made each week northbound to SeaTac before the train makes its first northbound departure.  From Federal Way to SeaTac is scheduled to take 23 minutes.  (From Lakewood to the airport is 60 minutes but for the rest of these calculations I’m using Federal Way since that’s where Link will be.)  Based on my back-of-the-envelope numbers, that’s about $385k per year in service hours to run overnight half-hourly service.  This number does seem a bit low to me but it also looks in the ballpark based on the amount of service hours Seattle is buying per-route.  I am going to run this past a planner friend of mine, see what they think. :)

On your proposed email to businesses, Jo, I like the first draft but would add some language about how it might benefit those employees.  Like “do you have employees that work for you overnight who might have had difficulty getting to work on time” or something along those lines?  I’ve requested edit access to put thoughts in there since this email is getting longer than I expected.

Anyway, see you all online tomorrow!

Wes

On Fri, Aug 19, 2022, at 09:14, Jo Claxton wrote:
> Hello BATS group,
> Our monthly meeting is on Monday at 6:30pm. All TRU members are welcome to join us.
> This is the meeting link:
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87231952291?pwd=NVpGS0NoOTIvTDcxcjBHREc3cFphdz09 <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87231952291?pwd%3DNVpGS0NoOTIvTDcxcjBHREc3cFphdz09&sa=D&source=calendar&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw087GaNybgx5b_ue0FCJHzw>
> 
> Katie has reached out to Port of Seattle commissioners Hasegawa and Calkins and they have agreed to meet with us about our skybridge/late night transit project. No date has been set for that meeting but we can discuss on Monday what we would like to have prepared in the event that it comes up soon.
> Best,
> Jo
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