[Transit] bus service increase/event

James McIntosh mcintoshjamesswc01 at centurylink.net
Mon Feb 20 13:20:16 PST 2023


All 3 of these dates work for me.


Thursday March 23, Tuesday March 28, and Thursday March 30th.


Either place would be good.

Thanks. Jim


On Sun, 19 Feb, 2023 at 11:31 AM, Sarah Reyneveld <sarahreyneveld at gmail.com> wrote:
 

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Cc: volunteer at seattlesubway.org; transit at transitriders.org

Thanks, Amy! Any of those dates work for me, with a preference for the Thursdays. I don't have any preference or objection to the two locations proposed. Thanks! 


On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:37 AM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:


Hey folks,


Happy Friday! Updates on planning:


Event date: Thursday March 23, Tuesday March 28, and Thursday March 30th tied for most popular date choices. 


Planning meeting date: We can't get everyone on the same date, it sounds like. The two most popular choices were:

*	Thurs Feb 23 between 6:30 and 9pm: Evan isn't available
*	Sunday Feb 26 anytime between 10am and 2pm: Sarah isn't available


Do we need to try to hash this out a phone call really quickly or can someone appoint a delegate from their org to represent them for one of these times? As soon as we can agree I'll send out a call invite.


Location: I heard no preference or objection between Brewlab and Optimism. We should probably see if either of these places has availability on any of the 3 dates and determine cost - anyone want to help out with this?



Speakers: I heard no discussion on this, I am assuming we're good with getting a speaker from each org to represent? I know Doug already volunteered to speak for the Urbanist, can everyone else start thinking about a speaker from their org? I assume we're looking for ~5mins/per, but what do you think?


Thanks,
Amy






On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 3:56 PM Sarah Reyneveld <sarahreyneveld at gmail.com<mailto:sarahreyneveld at gmail.com>> wrote:



Thanks, Doug and all. Thursday, February 23rd at 6:30pm is the only time that works for me if we can swing that date. Looking forward to it. 


Sarah 


On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 8:42 AM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:


I filled out the planning meeting poll and it looks like Thursday Feb 23 6:30 to 8pm window or Sunday Feb 26 10am to 2pm window are our two leading options with 4 yeses. (I could also probably make Tuesday evening Feb 21 work in a pinch, but will be out of town so not ideal.) Would any of those work for you, Sarah?


Either Optimism or Brewlab are fine by me.


Apologies for missing the second scheduling poll earlier. I believe I filled out the other one, but let me know if not.












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On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:57 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:


Thanks Doug and Evan! Appreciate your insight! Just an update for the group and some quick actions to complete by Thursday 2/16:


Scheduling:
I have 3 voters for the "event date" poll and 2 voters for the "planning meeting date" poll....doesn't quite seem like a quorum :)
Action if you haven't responded to the polls yet: Please help us pick dates for the event and/or the planning meeting - the more voices we hear, the better chance we have of picking days when everyone can participate.

Event poll: <https://forms.office.com/r/LuiMwCA69n>https://forms.office.com/r/LuiMwCA69n
Planning meeting: <https://www.when2meet.com/?18703350-cnKIp>https://www.when2meet.com/?18703350-cnKIp
If for whatever reason the polls are not great for you, please feel free to email me your responses and I will record them for you. Heck, you can even text me: 206-240-4457.


Location:
Love the Optimism and Brewlab suggestions! they both check a couple of key boxes - well served by transit, centrally located, have outdoor seating for folks, have spacious floorplans that accommodate groups, 99% sure both are wheelchair accessible. I think Optimism has at least one or two non-alcoholic options for folks...not sure about Brewlab but I'll try to get over later this week to check. Optimism is open 7 days/week, Brewlab is open Wed - Sun. Optimism has food trucks (and lets you bring your own food) and Brewlab has pizza.


Action: If you have another location suggestion, or support for or objection to Optimism or Brewlab, please respond to this thread.


Speaker:
Doug suggested that each of the orgs bring a speaker. There are some merits to that approach - it'll probably be easier to get a few friendlies to speak for a few minutes than to recruit one outside "bigger" speaker, speakers could be spaced throughout the event so that everyone gets to hear a speaker even if they only come for part of the event, it's always nice to hear from different voices instead of just one, and will help everyone get at least one guaranteed introduction to an org they don't currently belong to.


Action: Does this seem like the right approach to you? Or do you think we should try to recruit an outside speaker? Maybe you have a different idea? Please respond to this thread and let us know!


Action Summary due Feb 16: 2 questions to answer on email (a sentence or bullet point is fine), 2 scheduling polls to respond - I estimate about 5 mins total to complete. I set the Feb 16th deadline because I find deadlines helpful for this sort of thing but let me know if you need more time/flexibility, I don't intend to stress folks out or be un-inclusive.


Thanks so much! Happy Valentines and Election Day tomorrow!


Best regards,
Amy


On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 6:42 PM Evan Jayne <volunteer at seattlesubway.org<mailto:volunteer at seattlesubway.org>> wrote:


Yes, thanks for putting this together, Amy! 


I threw in my/Seasub's availability for both a happy hour and a planning chat. Let me know if you have any questions.


Also, I agree with Doug. For our first joint happy hour, it makes sense to have reps from each of our orgs speak. In terms of location, Optimism does have incredible capacity. We could also look into Red Hook Brew Lab if we wanted to do something with outdoor options (I know Ballard and Fremont have a TON of breweries with outdoor seating - but those two neighborhoods can be a bit difficult to get to transit-wise).


Looking forward to connecting with everyone!


Evan


On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 12:48 PM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:


Thanks for putting together the scheduling poll, Amy.


As to the speaker question, I think just having one rep from each org speak to the important transit needs emerging would be interesting for our first joint meeting. We could look for outside guests at future events. I'd be happy to serve as The Urbanist's speaker/rep. Does that sound about right? Can also seek out a "name" if that seems more enticing.


Regarding the venue, how do we feel about Optimism Brewing? Feels like everything happens there, but they do have capacity for bigger events. Open to other ideas though!












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On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:25 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:



Hey everyone!
 
Just wanted to get
the gang back together on the Urbanist/Seattle Subway/TRU/36th Dems pro-transit
meet and greet. I'm going to recap what I know and then give us some discussion
items to kick off the convo.
 
Since we last met,
Doug talked to Evan Jayne from Seattle Subway. I've copied Evan on this thread, welcome! 
 
Timing:
It sounds like
Seattle Subway is doing an event next week, which felt a little soon for
scheduling us all together, so Doug and Sarah and I are thinking March (perhaps late March?) would be better for a
joint meetup. I think we've talked about this as a happy hour (6pm -8/9ish) timeslot, but please raise your hand if
you are thinking differently.
 
Action for you:
Please fill in the scheduling poll - what day should we hold the event?
<https://forms.office.com/r/LuiMwCA69n>https://forms.office.com/r/LuiMwCA69n 
 
Place:
Seattle Subway
usually meets at Pike Place Bar and Grill, but given this is a larger event, we
may need to find a new home.
 
Questions for
you: 
*	How many people do we think we can recruit from our respective orgs?
*	Any ideas for a good location? Maybe you know someone who works at a cool spot? It would be inclusive to find a place that has a patio or some kind of outdoor mingling space.

 
Agenda planning meeting:
At our last meeting,
we talked a bit about maybe having a speaker at this event, and it sounds like
Evan is interested in that too. We could dig a little deeper into what actions
we are bringing this coalition together to drive short- and medium-term. We can
try to hash this out on email but I suspect a live discussion is the
quickest/easiest way to get there.
 
Action for you:
Yeah, sorry, it's another scheduling poll. When can you meet to discuss the
agenda/planning?
<https://www.when2meet.com/?18703350-cnKIp>https://www.when2meet.com/?18703350-cnKIp
 
Question for
you: Who should we try to recruit to speak?
 
Please fill in
those scheduling polls no later than Monday Feb 13th just so we can get
stuff landed and making progress. In the meantime, would love to hear any
discussion/ideas on location and speakers right here on this thread.
 
Thanks for leaning
in on this! 


Best regards,
Amy Richards
Transit Riders Union
 


On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 11:07 AM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:


Also Evan replied this morning with an update, which includes times that leads me to think March 20-23 window is looking promising:



"Given that this will be a joint event, and we'll likely attract a larger crowd than we've attracted when we've hosted independent events, I'm thinking the Pike Place Bar and Grill will probably be too small. Do you have any thoughts on where we could host our happy hour? I'm more than happy to do some digging and help pinpoint and then secure a location.


Also, in terms of timing, we're open to any week night (probably between 6:00 and 8:00 or 6:00 and 9:00?) the weeks of 3.13, 3.20, or 3.27. Do you have an ideal date in mind?


Finally, I'd love to align on an agenda at some point. I think it would be great to set a solid amount of time aside for open mingling/networking but think having a designated speaker/presentation or two might help bring out a larger crowd."











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On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 10:59 AM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:


I leave for a long weekend vacation on February 16 so March seems like the better fit for me too.


Can do another call, but also happy to make some headway by email. Week of March 13 looks pretty tight between the TRU meeting and some Urbanist meetings. But rest of the month is pretty open for me. Exception is I can't do Monday March 6th due to a board meeting.












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On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 8:49 AM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:



Thanks Sarah and Doug! I'm traveling this week so i missed this yesterday. +1 on pushing to March for a joint meetup/happy hour.


I'll send around a scheduling poll for another planning meeting when I get back this weekend and I'll include Evan.


Best regards,
Amy



On Wed, Feb 1, 2023, 10:24 PM Sarah Reyneveld <sarahreyneveld at gmail.com<mailto:sarahreyneveld at gmail.com>> wrote:



Thanks, Doug! That's exciting that Seattle Subway is interested in combining forces. I am available 2/16, but the rest of that week is pretty booked. It might make sense to push it to March if they are ok with that.


Thanks! 
Sarah 


On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 11:59 AM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:


Hi Amy and Sarah,


Was finally able to connect with Seattle Subway over the weekend, but I was slammed earlier this week and have been meaning to update. They are interested. We should be corresponding with Evan at volunteer at seattlesubway.org<mailto:volunteer at seattlesubway.org> for events down the road btw. They are planning to do a meetup the week of February 13 which we could see about combining forces with or take a look at March to do our joint one if that feels a bit rushed. It sounds like they were open to combining forces in February.


Here's Evan's email below. What's your preference?



"My name is Evan Jayne (nice to e-meet you!). I am the volunteer coordinator for Seattle Subway and am responsible for coordinating our next happy hour event.


We are excited about the idea of doing a joint happy hour with you and Transit Riders Union! 


When we were planning ours independently, we were aiming to have it the week of February 13 at the Pike Place Bar and Grill. When and where were you thinking about hosting the joint happy hour?"











Thanks,


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On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:


Hey folks,


two asks before I begin:

*	If anyone has Sarah Reyneveld's email address, can you add her to this thread?
*	If you were at the meeting and want to correct or build on my notes, I encourage and welcome you to, just reply to the thread so we keep it all in one place.

Notes from our meeting today:


Attendees:  

*	Doug (The Urbanist)
*	Sarah (36th Dems)
*	Saunatina (TRU)
*	Wes (TRU)
*	Amy (TRU)

Discussion at top of call:

*	There is common interest between the Urbanist, Seattle Subway, 36th Dems, and TRU forming a coalition to advocate for restoration/expansion of bus service hours.
*	Trust with voters and campaigns has been broken - we've passed levies for service hours that can't be fulfilled due to a lack of bus drivers, we've seen Seattle City Council move funding out of transit and into bridge maintenance. 
*	We want to amplify the asks that the ATU have made around improving bus driver recruitment (the path to a CDL is time-consuming and expensive) and retention (more hours, better hours, safety, childcare, etc).

To build the coalition, we agreed it would be good to start with a meetup, and then follow up down the line with calls to action and a rally.

*	Would be open invite, but particularly targeted at building engagement among existing members of our orgs
*	Doug said that Pike Place Bar has historically been a good site for meetups, but it could be challenging if lots of people come. 
*	Feb/March timeframe
*	We'd like a speaker if possible
*	Doug will be checking in with Seatlte Subway on their engagement in this process
*	Doug and Sarah will be leading the effort, with help from me
*	Saunatina requested that Sarah and Doug email her to be added to TRU's BATS (Bus and Transit Service) workgroup mailing list, and encouraged them to attend our next BATS meeting (4th Mondays, monthly).

That's it! Thanks for meeting today and have a great weekend!


Best regards,
Amy




On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:55 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:



I can't update the poll, I'd have to make a new one, its a tool limitation. If you have no availability during the next week or so, can you propose some days/ times the following week that work for you here on this thread? Thanks!


Amy





On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 4:48 PM Dave Schuldt <dave.schuldt at me.com<mailto:dave.schuldt at me.com>> wrote:


Maybe include the week of the 22nd to give people more time to plan?




Dave Schuldt









On Jan 11, 2023, at 4:25 PM, amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Doug!


Thanks for circling back on this! I think most of the BATS workgroup is interested in helping so let's meet to get the ball rolling.


So we don't go back and forth on scheduling, can folks please fill in this availability poll? https://www.when2meet.com/?18258398-2uOGD


Thanks!


Amy


On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 4:10 PM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:


Hi Amy and Wes,


Following up about the transit meetup idea. When would be a good time and how should we proceed?



Thanks,












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On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 7:53 PM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:


Hi Amy,


Thanks for following up on this. January works for me. December was going to be tough to squeeze in. I think awareness raising is fine for this initial event, but if we can get people plugged in at TRU, The Urbanist, SeaSubway, etc all the better. Fine to encourage them to start pressuring their County CMs and City CMs


I was thinking we just invite our lists, post our respective websites, and see how it goes unless you want to go beyond that to target audiences. Long-term we probably should think about how to expand the coalition for this campaign, but the January event to get the ball rolling doesn't necessarily need to get all the way there.


Event can be anywhere. We're not tied to Pike Place Bar. Seattle Subway just mentioned it had worked well for an event with about 30 folks last month. Ben B also knows the owner. If we're expecting a lot bigger crowd it might be an awkward fit.












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On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 7:28 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:


hey folks,


I mentioned this to the Bus & Transit Service workgroup tonight, and it sounds like there is building consensus that folks are stoked about this event, and that January feels like the right time. 


On the other hand, I am not sure how stoked folks are about meetings right now :)


Things I can think of that it would be helpful to lock on soonish before the holidaze sets in:

*	Date
*	Location (sounds like Pike Place Bar is currently the suggested option, there was a question in the BATS group about whether they have outdoor seating?)
*	What do we want the outcome of the event to be? Like do we want attendees writing letters, showing up to public meetings, joining TRU, coalition- and relationship-building for future efforts?
*	Do we have a target audience and how do we want to reach them?

Thoughts?


Amy






On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 7:54 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:


Awesome, Wes! I think everyone missed the mail, was busy with Thanksgiving stuff, and/or didn't get the same level of calendar/workback anxiety as me (all totes cool/understandable), so I didn't end up setting anything up, but happy to chat next week if folks are into it.


Hope you had a good Thanksgiving!


Amy


On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 1:36 PM Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com<mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:



Oops, sorry, I missed this email.  Were you two able to chat?  I definitely love the idea of rallying for more bus service and want to help. :)



Wes


On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 18:54, amy wrote:



Thanks Doug. I don't know that we have to wait til I-135 is all the way over.,..i think just having the holidays out of the way may help us get more mindshare. I think it's worth a discussion.




Anyone else on the thread (besides me and Doug) up for a half-hour Zoom tomorrow or Wednesday to lock on a date and broadly sketch out what we think we need to do and by when? If so, please let me know any scheduling preference.




Amy








On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 6:10 PM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:



Yes, that's a good point to consider, Katie. We can push to 2023 if that works better. But, Amy, are you leaning toward meeting after I-135, e.g. late February? My schedule is pretty open tomorrow. I just can't meet at 9am. Similar Wednesday.












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On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 3:00 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:



would folks like to have a call to talk about this? like to agree on a date, decide what we need to do and who's gonna do it, etc.? mid-December is gonna be here before we know it and between I-135 stuff, holidays, work etc my calendar is filling up alarmingly quickly and I'm guessing that's a pretty universal experience :)



happy to set us up if folks can send me availability for this and/or next week. thanks!



Amy




On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 7:51 AM Katie Wilson <katie at transitriders.org<mailto:katie at transitriders.org>> wrote:



Hi All,



I just added Doug to the listserv so he can get and receive emails through transit at transitriders.org<mailto:transit at transitriders.org>.



Happy to support whatever date is decided. Keep in mind Dec. 13th is our end-of-year celebration, so having this the night before or after could depress attendance at one or both events— but maybe if we’re pulling from more organizations for this meetup that won’t matter too much. And maybe everyone’s in the mood for multiple social events by mid-December, anyway. :)



- Katie





On Nov 17, 2022, at 7:54 PM, amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:





Hi Doug!



Yeah, that seems like a good location! I prefer Wednesday but can make Monday work as well!



Amy




On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 6:54 PM Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org<mailto:doug at theurbanist.org>> wrote:



Hi Amy,



Do you think a meetup event in mid December would work? We were thinking of Pike Place Bar as a venue since Seattle Subway has held events there before and if familiar with staff. What evenings work well for you? Monday Dec. 12 or Wed. Dec. 14 seem good for me. If it's just too tough for December, we could look at January.



First meetup could float the idea, and then we could pivot to a bigger rally later in 2023? 




Thanks for offering to help!












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On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 6:36 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com<mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi Doug,



Just following up the TRU meeting - would love to help out, please let me know about any meetings.



Best regards,

Amy Richards

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