[Transit] Termination of Bus 20 Route
Katie Wilson
katie at transitriders.org
Wed Jul 31 09:08:36 PDT 2024
Metro just now got back to me to ask whether today (July 31) 4pm-5pm would work. Wes, Doug, what say you? I can ask for some times next week if not.
> On Jul 26, 2024, at 4:22 PM, Katie Wilson <katie at transitriders.org> wrote:
>
> Ok thanks! I’m waiting to hear back from Metro about times, stay tuned.
>
>> On Jul 26, 2024, at 10:50 AM, Doug Trumm <dmtrumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm also down to meet with Martin/Metro and could make afternoons Monday to Thursday work next week.
>>
>> Thanks for setting this up!
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 10:32 AM Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>> (Oops, turns out I meant not Tuesday; so Monday or Wednesday through Friday from 1:30pm onward.)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024, at 09:30, Wes Mills wrote:
>>>> I would do a meeting if folks are down. Maybe Metro would feel like we heard them better if we did, versus a letter? (I’m free Tuesday-Friday next week from 1:30pm onward.)
>>>>
>>>> I’m just glad they’re getting back to us on their thinking.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2024, at 12:42, Katie Wilson wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> DeAnna Martin from Metro called me about this today. She wants to know if we’re interested in a meeting with Metro staff to discuss this, or if we’d prefer them to just put together a long letter. (I got the sense that their response is going to be that they’ve looked into a number of options and decided that they’re all too expensive and would require worse cuts elsewhere.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do people want a meeting? It would be virtual of course. Let me know and if so what times work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Katie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2024, at 11:24 AM, Doug Trumm <dmtrumm at gmail.com <mailto:dmtrumm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to see they're working on a response. Nicely done, all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 10:53 AM Katie Wilson <katie at transitriders.org <mailto:katie at transitriders.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We got this reply this morning from Metro head honcho Michelle Allison. Below that I’m pasting an invitation from Solutionary Rail to a briefing about Amtrak Cascades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Katie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ———————
>>>>>> Katie –
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you so much for your letter regarding Route 20. I have asked our team to provide some additional information related to the situation and the options you outlined. I am gathering those details this week and will get back to you soon on what might be possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Michelle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ———————
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Katie and all at TRU,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to make sure you get this invitation to a briefing on Amtrak Cascades service between Vancouver, B.C., Seattle, and Portland -- current plans for its improvement and its potential as the backbone of regional travel north and south. Perhaps you've already received an invitation from another volunteer in the Rail Can't Wait campaign orgs -- I hope so. If not, our apologies, as TRU has already signed onto this campaign!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHAT: Advocate Insider Briefing - Amtrak Cascades
>>>>>> WHEN: Wednesday, July 31st, 6:00p - 7:00p PT
>>>>>> WHO: Organizations forming the Rail Can't Wait Campaign, for mode shift of passengers and freight from planes and highways to trains.
>>>>>> WHERE: Zoom (virtual)
>>>>>> RSVP: Sign Up Here <https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZItduCgpj0uHt1dLf4gE836znzd6A4XdMKv> 👈
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHY: Well-planned rail is a climate and equitable transportation solution for travel beyond Washington's urban and rural places, and urgent action is needed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an exciting time for the Amtrak Cascades corridor, an opportunity to develop excellence in passenger rail service for mobility, transportation equity, energy savings, and emissions reduction. The timing is crucial for making improvements while federal money is available. Today’s slow, unreliable service is not acceptable — we need a plan with ambitious state goals that serves the traveling public to deliver faster, frequent, reliable service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Presenters will include expertise from Solutionary Rail, Climate Rail Alliance, Washington Physicians for Social Responsibility, and 350 Seattle, including Thomas White, rail expert and co-author of the Long Range Plan for Amtrak Cascades (2006).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Topics: The briefing will cover Washington State’s newly revised plans <https://wsdot.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-06/Amtrak-Cascades-2024-Preliminary-Service-Development-Plan.pdf> for Amtrak Cascades and why they’re inadequate for meeting our challenges. We will share our analysis and our top priorities for improving the Amtrak Cascades. You can ask questions and make comments, and we’ll offer specific ways individuals and organizations can make an impact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please RSVP <https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZItduCgpj0uHt1dLf4gE836znzd6A4XdMKv> and join us on July 31. Feel free to share this invite with interested persons in your network!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With thanks for your consideration,
>>>>>> Mary Paterson
>>>>>> Volunteer with Solutionary Rail
>>>>>> 206-271-0251
>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 9:27 PM, Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Works for me! I just finished clicking “accept” on all of the edits. Doug, I also moved your new paragraph to be third to give it what I perceive as more emphasis after the lead-in of “Metro, you’ve tried to do this before, please knock it off.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2024, at 21:21, Katie Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks so much Wes for drafting this up, and Doug for your good edits. I think the letter is excellent and we should bring it to the MM on Thursday! Unless anyone has any additional edits, I can copy and paste this into our agenda document, and I can also include it in an email to members tomorrow evening so people have a chance to read before the meeting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 4:17 PM, Doug Trumm <dmtrumm at gmail.com <mailto:dmtrumm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice work, Wes! I offered some edits.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 3:40 PM Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, our dog got sick this weekend (she didn’t eat my homework!) and we got caught up in that mess. Better now, so I had a minute to work on a letter: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bM4i2vb-Joc1wXFb5NZiFWWp97z8BbXf_nw7-oL3GyU/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully this gets across a good message. I was trying to balance the need for Metro to not make new gaps in the bus network alongside answering the potential “funding / staffing crisis” response alongside that several of the new routes Metro proposes to add will also be very useful (but those routes don’t have any riders speaking up for them).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024, at 14:25, Wes Mills wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> This is a good email. I can take a swing at a letter tonight and send it out to the group tomorrow. The below gives me a lot to go on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’m thinking a one-page email (we don’t have to reiterate everything described below) that focuses on: access (can’t ride a bus that doesn’t exist); mobility (people who can’t drive need the bus); and service (Metro can’t keep on with cutting service when a train station opens).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unless folks object, I would also like to mention the “perception” that the 61—another desired bus route, but without as many vocal advocates because it is brand new so it has no rider population—is being “traded” by removing the 20. We, as TRU, want both and what stops us from that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024, at 14:11, Katie Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like their group had a meeting with Metro staff that CM Barón’s office helped to organize, and Metro staff presented the decision as a done deal. Jim forwarded me the follow-up email he sent to them, below.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This will be on our agenda at next Thursday’s MM— if anyone wants to draft a letter that TRU could send to Metro, please do and we can consider it at our meeting!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Katie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ——————————
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear KC CM Baron, CM Staff for D2 & D4, and KC Metro Staff,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for organizing this meeting on the Bus 20 termination and for the presentation by KC Metro. Unfortunately, we are not persuaded that this was correctly decided. This decision to eliminate bus service north-south from Northgate to U-District through the neighborhoods of Licton Springs, Green Lake and East Wallingford was based on inadequate outreach to the community - a flyer this past summer mentioned “provide feedback to the Lynnwood Link Extension,” without indication that Bus 20 through our neighborhood was impacted. None of us are aware of any mailers, public notices or any presence at community events. And there was no representation for Green Lake or East Wallingford on the 15-member Mobility Board; 13 of the members were from far north King County (Bitter Lake 2, Bothell 1, Haller Lake 1, Kenmore 1, Lake City 2, Lake Forest Park 1, Shoreline 5). Further, the Equity Score did not consider students or seniors. In your Metro presentation, you cherry-picked data when you stated that bus boardings on Latona are only 12% of Bus20 ridership. This is not just about Latona; this is about the whole south half of the Bus 20 route, north-south from Northgate to U-District, west of I-5.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are concerned about the lack of acknowledgement of the impact on students and schools. Many North Seattle College students live along Latona Ave. You blithely suggest alternatives. One of us tried out an alternative. He walked 6 blocks from 52nd and Latona to Meridian and 53rd to catch Bus62, transferred to Light Rail at Roosevelt Station, then exited Light Rail at Northgate Station and walked across the John Lewis Bridge to NSC; the total travel time was ~40 minutes. The return trip from NSC to 52nd and Latona via Bus20 was ~15 minutes. So daily, to get to/from NSC that's an extra 50 minutes of travel time. Weekly that's an extra 4+ hours of commuting. This extra travel time imposed on these students represents significant harm. Plus, it's less safe for students, especially young women, when during late Fall, Winter and early Spring they must walk long distances in the dark.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you reach out to schools along the route? We did. 7 schools cited the importance of the Bus20 for their students and staff - North Seattle College, University of Washington, Bishop Blanchet High School, Robert Eagle Middle School, La Esquelita, Little Explorers School and The Children's School (TCS). Here's a quote from the Director of Communication for North Seattle College:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Bus 20 is a critical transportation option for North Seattle College students, faculty, staff and families in the area. Limiting or making this route unavailable in any way will have severe negative impacts on the diverse community the college serves. It will also affect the college's ability to appropriately serve the diverse community that it relies on for ongoing enrollment. This is a serious issue of equity and inclusion."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a quote from an administrator at TCS which serves 50 families with preschoolers ages 2 to 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "My name is [FP] … and the #20 Metro Bus is very important to our non-profit business. We run a non-profit business that is on the #20 route. Over the years we have had not only staff members who regularly use that route to get to and from work but we have had families who use #20 to get their children to and from school. I currently have several staff members who rely on the #20 route and it would cause them and our preschool hardship if it were to be eliminated.”
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a quote from the Little Explorers School:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I am the manager of the after-school program at Little Explorers Seattle. We provide after-school care for dozens of students at McDonald International Elementary School and rely on the #20 to transport the kiddos from their school to our location on Woodlawn and NE 72nd. Losing the #20 would negatively impact our small business. It would negatively impact many parents, who would have to scramble to find after school childcare for next year. But most importantly, it would disrupt the social and educational development of the children who attend our program and ride the #20 every day. For these reasons, I am hoping that we will be able to save the 20, or at least ensure that another replacement route would continue to run N/S on Latona ave NE. Thank you for your consideration!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are concerned that KC Metro does not seem to understand how profoundly this will adversely affect students and schools.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Likewise, we don't think KC Metro understands how negatively this will affect disabled people and mobility-limited elderly. You mentioned Sound Generations Hyde Transit and Paratransit. Will these services really be reliable and able to accommodate the large number of now busless disabled and elderly users who need access to shopping, health care and light rail? Will these services be available to disabled people who are still working and must commute to/from work daily? Here are some representative quotes:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I am a 65 year disabled person [56th near Latona] ... It is my only means of public transportation to get to the University campus, and to Northgate where my dentist and doctor are located. Furthermore, my disabled 24 year old niece who lives with us came to live with me and has completed one year of her studies (out of three) in library science, using this bus. Tragically she will have to move to new accommodation if this cancellation of the Route 20 goes through. I will have to turn to expensive private rides. I have lived at my address since 1992, paid the taxes and supported the re-curbing work throughout my neighborhood to help the disabled. I do not agree that students living within the corridor and close proximity to the Route 20 should have to move now in preparation of Fall quarter. I do not agree that there is sufficient public transportation for any disabled person living within the corridor and close proximity to the Route 20 should be left without transportation."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I am a senior [at 77th and 1st Ave NE] without access to a car. I attend fitness classes in Northgate at least twice a week via 20 bus. My doctor and my dentist are both at Northgate and accessible to me only via the 20 bus. I have a monthly doctor appointment. Other means of transportation are either unreliable or too expensive for me on a limited income. Please keep the 20 bus."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I don't have a car and I have a disability and am unable to walk very far. I live in the South Green Lake neighborhood. I take the #20 bus to church in Green Lake. I take the 20 to connect to the 44 to travel to Wallingford and Ballard. I take the 20 to travel directly to the University District to do business and connect to light rail. I take the 20 to do business in Northgate and Lake City. The 44 and the 62 are too far away for me to walk to. If the #20 is discontinued, I will have no way to travel anywhere on public transit. I will lose my ability to travel anywhere independently. The biggest loss will be that I will not be able to go to church. The #20 stops right next to my church and there isn't any other bus route that travels up first avenue in Green Lake. Please do not discontinue the #20 bus. The route is essential for me to be able to travel the places I need to go every day on public transit. Thanks for listening."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I have multiple sclerosis and the 20 bus makes it possible for me to do the things I need to do in life on my own — grocery shop at PCC, visit doctors at UW, do volunteer work at UW’s botanic gardens. I’m about to take it home with heavy grocery bags right now. Without it I will be much less independent. I do not drive, so I’ll need to take Ubers, or wait for my husband to take time from work to drive me to the places that comprise my life. We moved to our neighborhood in part because of the accessibility and connectivity of the #20 bus. Please don’t eliminate the current route.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I have mobility limitations and the 20 is the only bus that goes down my street and is the only bus stop in the area less than a 10 minute walk away. It is my commute bus to and from work!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CM Baron, you mentioned that the City of Seattle has reduced its funding for Metro bus service. As I understand, in 2019 Seattle paid for 350,000 service hours annually. In 2020, during the pandemic, Seattle reduced its payment for service hours to 140,000. Now, in 2024, Seattle is still only paying for 140,000 service hours, even as bus ridership is rebounding from the pandemic. So the City of Seattle is now in arrears for 210,000 service hours annually. If lack of funding is a critical factor, then KC Metro needs to clearly state that maintaining bus service for the south half of the Bus20 Route requires that the City of Seattle pay for an additional X service hours [What is the cost of a service hour currently]. If the City of Seattle is responsible for this unfortunate situation, then the public needs to know and the public needs to pressure Seattle city officials to pay their fair share.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You say this is a done deal. But why? Our data shows that we clearly have a transit emergency looming because of a flawed process and the proper response is acknowledge the errors and take emergency action to prevent the harm. You have 2 months to prevent this emergency.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We now need to communicate with the Bus20 users from our list for whom we have email addresses (480+). I suspect they will be as distressed as we are at the impending harm. We will need to discuss together what other course of action we might have. If you have any suggestions for a further course of action, please let us know. If our above reasoning is flawed, please let us know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Below are resources that we referenced in our presentation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neighbors Helping To Save Bus Service
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Little
>>>>>>>>>>> Ted McMahon
>>>>>>>>>>> Arvia Morse
>>>>>>>>>>> Rosanne Olson
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our Video <https://drive.google.com/file/d/16-4M99CKxj81LLsIGqznF-l3YKCKO5y0/view?usp=sharing>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Video Content in a Document <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a7oO2f9sd_Fg_xXeov83LFe_qRif2J_qMLR1L1t19Qg/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our Save Bus 20 List <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17_fYHb0oXPWa51GlUniYCU7CGT6MwtQNVY456Pt4I58/edit?usp=sharing> with >1100 Bus Users (email addresses deleted)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our Census Tract, Block Group Analysis <https://coda.io/d/_dXZwYy09A9d/Bus20-Termination_suoLt>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On July 9, 2024, "Manahan, Clara" <clara.manahan at kingcounty.gov <mailto:clara.manahan at kingcounty.gov>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you again for meeting with us today to discuss the upcoming deletion of Route 20. As discussed on the call, I have attached a copy of the meeting chat. While the Lynnwood Link Connections project updates are already underway, I look forward to continued conversations on transit connections in East Wallingford in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Take good care,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clara
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clara Manahan (she/her)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Policy Advisor | Community Liaison
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> King County Councilmember Jorge L. Barón
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 516 Third Avenue, Suite 1200 | Seattle, WA 98104
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 206-263-2213
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any response to it constitutes a public record and may be subject to public disclosure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:36 AM, Cecelia Black <ceceliab at dr-wa.org <mailto:ceceliab at dr-wa.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And skip woodlawn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cecelia Black
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seattle Transit Organizer, Disability Mobility Initiative <http://www.dismobility.com/>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 425-359-5256 (cell) | ceceliab at dr-wa.org <mailto:ceceliab at dr-wa.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 315 5th Avenue S, Suite 850 | Seattle, WA 98104
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Transit <transit-bounces at transitriders.org <mailto:transit-bounces at transitriders.org>> On Behalf Of Dave Schuldt
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 6:30 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Katie Wilson <katie at transitriders.org <mailto:katie at transitriders.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Doug Trumm <dmtrumm at gmail.com <mailto:dmtrumm at gmail.com>>; transit at transitriders.org <mailto:transit at transitriders.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Transit] Termination of Bus 20 Route
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I learned that there has been talk of moving the 62 off Kirkwood to Latona.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Schuldt
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2024, at 3:34 PM, Katie Wilson <katie at transitriders.org <mailto:katie at transitriders.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. I replied to Jim Little and said we might be able to reinforce their message with a letter from TRU. If anyone wants to draft something up, please do! I can try to get the GC to approve at our meeting tomorrow, or we can wait for the MM next week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I also suggested we might be able to help with an action alert, especially if they have contact info for all the people who signed their petition— getting a bunch of those people to send a form email could help get some more attention.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2024, at 2:44 PM, Doug Trumm <dmtrumm at gmail.com <mailto:dmtrumm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think deleting Route 20 sets a bad precedent even if it's relatively top of the list if you absolutely had to cut in Seattle. As the letter mentions, it leaves a pretty significant swath in the Latona corridor that will have no bus route within a half-mile walk, made worse by the I-5 chasm obstructing the walkshed of the bus routes to the east. A bus route within a half-mile of every residential block is a bar the agency could be able to clear, especially in Seattle, given the population density. Maybe we could live with losing Route 20 (although Stephen Fesler did make a pretty good argument for keeping it <https://www.theurbanist.org/2023/01/31/metro-unveils-lynnwood-link-bus-restructure-concepts-in-an-austerity-redux/>), but what bus routes would be next? Is Metro managing decline or serious about ridership growth and improving service?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen also argues the agency's service guidelines are not being followed and outmoded anyway <https://www.theurbanist.org/2023/08/26/op-ed-metros-alarming-latest-bus-restructures-illustrate-the-need-for-reform/> to allow such cuts. They should require the agency to offer some sort of coverage in this proposed service gap. Even if Route 20 is underperforming by Seattle standards, it'd be a pretty good performing route next to some in the burbs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All in all, I'd be in support of signing on to the letter or adapting a similar version to signal our opposition to Metro's managed decline approach. Metro might think this cut makes sense in their equity framework, but it betrays a lack of vision to solve for their shortage of labor/service hours and make it so no one has to suffer such a severe cut.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Doug
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 1:53 PM Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s the same thing I’ve heard from Metro people. Apparently the south end of the 20, past Northgate, is sparsely ridden and has been sparsely ridden as far back as it being the 26. So in our current era of “not enough drivers”, Metro can’t swing it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m one of the people who is cheesed off about us cutting service, especially since we seem to keep cutting bus service in, around, and through Northgate when we do a train station opening. Essentially the ask is “do you want the 61” (the Lake City Fred Meyer to Greenwood Fred Meyer via Northgate route that we should have gotten at the Northgate Link opening) or “do you want the 20."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish we would keep the 20 on the route map so we could add frequency later, which would induce people to ride it more. But Metro seems unwilling or unable to do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll read over their letter when I get home tonight. Are they asking us to sign on as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024, at 11:52, Dave Schuldt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Low ridership at least on the south end from what I’ve seen. Some of the service can be covered by the 45 & 62 with a longer walk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Schuldt
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2024, at 11:35 AM, Katie Wilson <katie at transitriders.org <mailto:katie at transitriders.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just in. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: James W Little <littlejamesw at hey.com <mailto:littlejamesw at hey.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Termination of Bus 20 Route
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: July 6, 2024 at 11:48:44 PM PDT
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: contact at transitriders.org <mailto:contact at transitriders.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello TRU,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm one of several neighbors who are dismayed that KC Metro is cancelling the #20 Bus Route and not continuing service to the south half of the route from Northgate to U-District west of I-5 through Licton Springs, Green Lake and East Wallingford. We've reached out to Seattle City Council Members and King County Council Members without any resolution. We've contacted KC Metro leadership and requested a meeting but they've not responded to our request. Our last hurrah is to contact KC Executive Dow Constantine in hopes that he can reverse the harm that will result if this bus service is not replaced. HERE <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BzdGNi9TF6f2T31YdYudq9mbAIHcQJcbMFLx9VvPjQo/edit?usp=sharing> is our draft letter to Constantine. We would appreciate any suggestions that you might have on our letter or on strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Little
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neighbors Helping To Save Local Bus Service
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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