[Transit] Bus and Transit Service (BATS) Workgroup meeting reminder

[Jo Claxton]

Hi Amy,
Thanks so much for digging into all of this! Last night was a small group
so we kept the meeting short and will discuss where to go next with your
research in October's meeting. Thank you!

I know there is a TRU member (Wes or Saunatina might remember her name) who
works at Sound Transit and happened to fill a data records request that I
had put in to ST for bus stop info. I wonder if she knows anything about
the GOAL data?

Best,
Jo


On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 2:38 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey folks,
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> I'm really sorry I won't be able to join today due to a conflict. During
> our last meeting, I took an action to see if I could uncover any data that
> would help us understand national or worldwide baseline uptime for
> conveyance systems like the elevators and escalators in Seattle's downtown
> transit tunnel.
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> My research wasn't super successful, but here's the steps I took to find
> the info:
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> My first step was to try to identify any centralized source of the data,
> hopefully validated and benchmarked.
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> COMET <https://communityofmetros.org/> (Community of Metros) and GOAL
> <https://goalbenchmarking.org/> (Benchmarking Group of North American
> Light Rail Systems): COMET describes itself as "an international
> benchmarking system of subways." Both programs are run by the Imperial
> College of London. They survey large and medium metro systems worldwide
> (Sound Transit is a member) across a variety of measurements and compile
> the results….except they only share them with the participating transit
> agencies, not with the public. I emailed the GOAL program manager last week
> to explain what I was looking for and ask if they could share any data,
> even summarized or de-identified, or point me in the right direction. I
> haven't heard back.
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>
> Federal Transit Administration: This USDOT agency links to some
> interesting transit data resources (such as the National Transit Database
> <https://www.transit.dot.gov/ntd/what-national-transit-database-ntd-program>
> and Public Transportation Infrastructure Database
> <https://www.apta.com/research-technical-resources/transit-statistics/transit-infrastructure-database/>
> ) but I couldn't find any that tracked conveyance equipment uptime - just
> #s of escalators and escalators per station. Also, the data is kind of
> stale (2 - 4 years old) and in the case of the Transit Database, the data
> is only shared with transit agencies.
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> In all cases the data collected by these organizations is self-reported by
> transit agencies and only minimally validated by error checking.
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> Ok fine gatekeepers, I guess if you want something you have to do it
> yourself. So my second step was to go to a few websites for major systems
> that have subways/transit tunnels like New York's MTA and Chicago's CTA.
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> I didn't find much summarized elevator/escalator uptime data, which I
> assume is because
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>    - Agencies are not required to report it to the Feds as far as I can
>    tell and;
>    - the agencies all seem pretty self-conscious about it in ways that
>    sound similar to Sound Transit's presentations on the issue.
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> I suspect there's probably some relevant data in board meeting minutes…but
> I'm going to need a lot more time to manually comb through all that.
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> Questions to the group:
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>    - Are you aware of any resources or strategies for finding this
>    information that I missed?
>    - Do you think it's a worthwhile use of my time to keep digging in
>    with the various transit systems to try to find data?
>
> Hope this is helpful, thanks! Again, very sorry I won't be able to join
> tonight. Feel free to assign me some action items.
>
>
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> Best regards,
>
> Amy
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:04 PM Jo Claxton <msjoclaxton at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hello BATS,
>> Our monthly meeting is on Monday at 6:30pm.
>> Here is the meeting link:
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87231952291?pwd=NVpGS0NoOTIvTDcxcjBHREc3cFphdz09
>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87231952291?pwd%3DNVpGS0NoOTIvTDcxcjBHREc3cFphdz09&sa=D&source=calendar&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw087GaNybgx5b_ue0FCJHzw>
>>
>> Saunatina and I will update you on the meeting we had with the Port
>> Commissioners regarding the skybridge and airport transit.
>> AND, we can discuss more about our next project, vertical conveyances!
>> Thanks,
>> Jo
>>
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