[Transit] Bus and Transit Service (BATS) Workgroup meeting reminder

[amy]

Thanks, Jo! Yes, if we've got a TRU friend at Sound Transit, that would be
awesome, I'd love to talk to them.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 9:01 AM Jo Claxton <msjoclaxton at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Amy,
> Thanks so much for digging into all of this! Last night was a small group
> so we kept the meeting short and will discuss where to go next with your
> research in October's meeting. Thank you!
>
> I know there is a TRU member (Wes or Saunatina might remember her name)
> who works at Sound Transit and happened to fill a data records request that
> I had put in to ST for bus stop info. I wonder if she knows anything about
> the GOAL data?
>
> Best,
> Jo
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 2:38 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm really sorry I won't be able to join today due to a conflict. During
>> our last meeting, I took an action to see if I could uncover any data that
>> would help us understand national or worldwide baseline uptime for
>> conveyance systems like the elevators and escalators in Seattle's downtown
>> transit tunnel.
>>
>>
>>
>> My research wasn't super successful, but here's the steps I took to find
>> the info:
>>
>>
>>
>> My first step was to try to identify any centralized source of the data,
>> hopefully validated and benchmarked.
>>
>>
>>
>> COMET <https://communityofmetros.org/> (Community of Metros) and GOAL
>> <https://goalbenchmarking.org/> (Benchmarking Group of North American
>> Light Rail Systems): COMET describes itself as "an international
>> benchmarking system of subways." Both programs are run by the Imperial
>> College of London. They survey large and medium metro systems worldwide
>> (Sound Transit is a member) across a variety of measurements and compile
>> the results….except they only share them with the participating transit
>> agencies, not with the public. I emailed the GOAL program manager last week
>> to explain what I was looking for and ask if they could share any data,
>> even summarized or de-identified, or point me in the right direction. I
>> haven't heard back.
>>
>>
>>
>> Federal Transit Administration: This USDOT agency links to some
>> interesting transit data resources (such as the National Transit Database
>> <https://www.transit.dot.gov/ntd/what-national-transit-database-ntd-program>
>> and Public Transportation Infrastructure Database
>> <https://www.apta.com/research-technical-resources/transit-statistics/transit-infrastructure-database/>
>> ) but I couldn't find any that tracked conveyance equipment uptime - just
>> #s of escalators and escalators per station. Also, the data is kind of
>> stale (2 - 4 years old) and in the case of the Transit Database, the data
>> is only shared with transit agencies.
>>
>>
>>
>> In all cases the data collected by these organizations is self-reported
>> by transit agencies and only minimally validated by error checking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok fine gatekeepers, I guess if you want something you have to do it
>> yourself. So my second step was to go to a few websites for major systems
>> that have subways/transit tunnels like New York's MTA and Chicago's CTA.
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't find much summarized elevator/escalator uptime data, which I
>> assume is because
>>
>>
>>    - Agencies are not required to report it to the Feds as far as I can
>>    tell and;
>>    - the agencies all seem pretty self-conscious about it in ways that
>>    sound similar to Sound Transit's presentations on the issue.
>>
>> I suspect there's probably some relevant data in board meeting
>> minutes…but I'm going to need a lot more time to manually comb through all
>> that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Questions to the group:
>>
>>
>>    - Are you aware of any resources or strategies for finding this
>>    information that I missed?
>>    - Do you think it's a worthwhile use of my time to keep digging in
>>    with the various transit systems to try to find data?
>>
>> Hope this is helpful, thanks! Again, very sorry I won't be able to join
>> tonight. Feel free to assign me some action items.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Amy
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:04 PM Jo Claxton <msjoclaxton at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello BATS,
>>> Our monthly meeting is on Monday at 6:30pm.
>>> Here is the meeting link:
>>>
>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87231952291?pwd=NVpGS0NoOTIvTDcxcjBHREc3cFphdz09
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87231952291?pwd%3DNVpGS0NoOTIvTDcxcjBHREc3cFphdz09&sa=D&source=calendar&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw087GaNybgx5b_ue0FCJHzw>
>>>
>>> Saunatina and I will update you on the meeting we had with the Port
>>> Commissioners regarding the skybridge and airport transit.
>>> AND, we can discuss more about our next project, vertical conveyances!
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jo
>>>
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>>
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