[Transit] Route 47

Katie Wilson katie at transitriders.org
Fri Jan 5 12:22:20 PST 2024


Ok, sending now! I will bcc transit at transitriders.org <mailto:transit at transitriders.org> so you’ll all get a copy too.

> On Jan 5, 2024, at 12:18 PM, Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com> wrote:
> 
> I like it, I’m convinced!  They deserve a second email, something to chew on after the holidays.
> 
> Can we put it in The Urbanist as “from TRU?” :)
> 
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024, at 09:30, Katie Wilson wrote:
>> I just went into the doc and made the suggested changes, and re-addressed it to include the full council. Any objection to me resending this today? I can mention in my email that we made a couple small changes but the message is the same. And then we’ll be ready for it to go in the Urbanist too!
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 2:59 PM, Katie Wilson <katie at transitriders.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you all want to make those changes, or any others, I think it would be fine to send an updated version to the elected officials as well. Sam Smith told me he also made some suggestions in the doc, which you can take or leave of course. And Sam also thought we should send it to all the councilmembers. I can do that tomorrow or whenever it’s ready!
>>> 
>>> - Katie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 12:55 PM, Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I would be fine with this as well.  Doug, I see you made a couple of suggestions after Katie sent the first version.  I’m not sure how that would work; I would be fine including them in a piece at The Urbanist, but also don’t want to “surprise” the public folks who received it before the holidays.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps we should time it with when Katie sends a “reminder”, and we can mention in one in The Urbanist that some more language was added?  Also, does TRU get authorship?  The letter is signed on behalf of TRU and I’m a big fan of TRU getting visibility. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Wes
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024, at 12:00, Dave Schuldt wrote:
>>>>> I say go for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave Schuldt
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 11:25 AM, Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's a good letter. We'd also be open to publishing a version in The Urbanist if you want to submit it to get more traction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for writing this Wes!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Douglas Trumm, Publisher
>>>>>> Pronouns: he, him
>>>>>> The Urbanist <http://theurbanist.org/> | 320.237.4771
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 12:53 AM Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hadn't thought of that, works for me! A nice post-holidays reminder to run our buses :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023, at 15:26, Katie Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> We could also do both, send it now and then re-send in the new year.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My thought is first week of the new year, perhaps the 3rd, right as people are getting back in the swing of things.  Otherwise, if it gets read at all, I feel like it will fall into the “oh, yes, I should care about this”-and-then-forgotten crevice. :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There’s an argument for “send it now” because the survey results just dropped but I don’t think a couple of weeks will make that big a change?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023, at 14:05, Katie Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Wes and others, do you think we should send this ASAP or wait till first thing in the new year? If the former, I can format and send it tomorrow morning.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Katie Wilson <katie at transitriders.org <mailto:katie at transitriders.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think it’s a great letter, and I like Jo’s suggestion!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2023, at 11:22 PM, Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Here’s my attempt: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nRm2-iai7m72sxfW_xpmmvhDgG_w8VYuc-dWGTLH54Q/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I left some comments of my own in the document for things I was unsure about or want to make sure folks have a look at to check me on. :) I kept it to a single page, though I could always go on for far too long.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023, at 14:55, Katie Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Wes! I think it’s worth weighing in.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Jim also agreed a few days ago; I got stuck with a cold so didn't get to finishing this yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish a draft letter tonight; this route is small but seems important, especially as part of overall advocating for transit to be accessible to as many people as we can.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023, at 13:51, Katie Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else think TRU should write a letter??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2023, at 7:48 PM, Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a letter I wrote for myself to councilmembers Dembowski and Zahilay, but haven’t yet sent.  I think it would be a good idea, if TRU is game for it.  I know another community group—but I never found out which one—put up flyers along the closed bus stops of the 47 (I don’t know for sure if Metro did or didn’t) and that’s how a friend of mine who just moved from there found out their bus wasn’t coming back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the report I linked to, for those who don’t want to browse Twitter: https://kingcountymetro.blog/2023/12/14/madison-street-area-bus-service-change-project-phase-2-progress-report/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I would use to make a letter (and I’ll kick out a draft this weekend if at least one other person thinks we should give this a go):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The three big reasons in support of the 47 I know of:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s the only all-day, all-week Seattle bus route that hasn’t been restored from pandemic suspensions, and it should be running while we debate whether or not to keep it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 47 is, quite literally, on the side of a hill and getting to or from destinations along it involves walking either a moderately steep or very steep hill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no more than a handful of detached houses on that route; the entire route is the kind of mixed density we say we want across the whole city (including two multi-building, multi-story condo complexes).  If we don’t serve this by transit—electrified transit, I might add, since the 47 is a trolley route—what are we doing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end, I don’t think it’s fair for Metro to pit a survey about the 47 against “or, do you want more frequency on these other routes that don’t go to the same place as the 47” or to leave it to community feedback on a route that the community hasn’t been able to ride in four years.  Even the restoration plan would only be 11 hours a day, but my philosophy is get a route on the map and we can push to expand frequency and span later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, at 19:09, Katie Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven’t been paying close attention so only learned about this survey from Wes’s tweet: https://twitter.com/oowm/status/1735778121079759214
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know we have a new member who depended on the 47 and now has to drive to work. Maybe we should write a letter or something?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Katie Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> General Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Transit Riders Union
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