[Transit] Westneat column on 3rd Ave and buses

Katie Wilson katie at transitriders.org
Tue May 7 12:18:29 PDT 2024


I also think it would be great for a couple of TRU members to submit an op-ed! Let me know what I can do to help. I thought Mike Eliason’s twitter thread <https://twitter.com/holz_bau/status/1787159770237120700> made some good points.

> On May 7, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Doug Trumm <doug at theurbanist.org> wrote:
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> Good idea, Wes. I wrote a rebuttal for The Urbanist <https://www.theurbanist.org/2024/05/06/op-ed-sorry-danny-westneat-killing-the-bus-mall-wont-fix-third-avenue/> that ran yesterday, but I still think it's a good idea for TRU to write one to and submit it to the Seattle Times and then Stranger. We would be your fallback if both turn you down, but I'm optimistic Stranger would say yes. Feel free to crib from mine if anything is useful.
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> On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 7:47 PM Dave Schuldt <dave.schuldt at me.com <mailto:dave.schuldt at me.com>> wrote:
>> First this should be posted on the members wall so everyone knows about it  (i’ll do that now)
>> Second the column is total bullshit and an attack on our bus system and those who ride it.
>> Third TRU and MASS should respond quickly and call out the Times.
>> Fourth this sounds like something The Stranger would like to make fun of.  Anyone have a connection there?
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>> Dave Schuldt
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>>> On May 4, 2024, at 12:07 PM, Wes Mills <wesmills at wesmills.com <mailto:wesmills at wesmills.com>> wrote:
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>>> https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/why-is-seattles-third-avenue-not-recovering-it-just-might-be-the-buses/
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>>> In this column, Danny Westneat picks up on the Twitter drama where former Microsoft executive Steve Sinofski posited that the problem with 3rd Ave is that drivers can’t use it 24/7.  Westneat makes the argument that while buses aren’t the root of the problem, other streets without as many buses—and with more drivers in cars—are recovering faster.
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>>> I am wondering if this is something we should push back on, maybe an op-ed submitted to the Times (to them first because they published Westneats column but if they decline, then ask The Urbanist)?
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>>> Bias note: I was quoted, without a name and out of context, from my Twitter account towards the end of the article.  That’s not why I’m asking if we should push back, but it’s also why I wouldn’t write an op-ed just by myself (as I’m not upset by the quote, but I don’t want folks to take an op-ed as I am). :)
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