[Transit] Bus and Transit Service (BATS) Workgroup meeting reminder

[Katie Wilson]

You’re probably thinking of Robin Gold? Her email is dogfloss at gmail.com <mailto:dogfloss at gmail.com>.

> On Sep 27, 2022, at 10:33 AM, amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Jo! Yes, if we've got a TRU friend at Sound Transit, that would be awesome, I'd love to talk to them.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 9:01 AM Jo Claxton <msjoclaxton at gmail.com <mailto:msjoclaxton at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Amy,
> Thanks so much for digging into all of this! Last night was a small group so we kept the meeting short and will discuss where to go next with your research in October's meeting. Thank you!
> 
> I know there is a TRU member (Wes or Saunatina might remember her name) who works at Sound Transit and happened to fill a data records request that I had put in to ST for bus stop info. I wonder if she knows anything about the GOAL data?
> 
> Best,
> Jo
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 2:38 PM amy <antennas2heaven at gmail.com <mailto:antennas2heaven at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hey folks,
>  
> I'm really sorry I won't be able to join today due to a conflict. During our last meeting, I took an action to see if I could uncover any data that would help us understand national or worldwide baseline uptime for conveyance systems like the elevators and escalators in Seattle's downtown transit tunnel.
>  
> My research wasn't super successful, but here's the steps I took to find the info:
>  
> My first step was to try to identify any centralized source of the data, hopefully validated and benchmarked.
>  
> COMET <https://communityofmetros.org/> (Community of Metros) and GOAL <https://goalbenchmarking.org/> (Benchmarking Group of North American Light Rail Systems): COMET describes itself as "an international benchmarking system of subways." Both programs are run by the Imperial College of London. They survey large and medium metro systems worldwide (Sound Transit is a member) across a variety of measurements and compile the results….except they only share them with the participating transit agencies, not with the public. I emailed the GOAL program manager last week to explain what I was looking for and ask if they could share any data, even summarized or de-identified, or point me in the right direction. I haven't heard back.
>  
> Federal Transit Administration: This USDOT agency links to some interesting transit data resources (such as the National Transit Database <https://www.transit.dot.gov/ntd/what-national-transit-database-ntd-program> and Public Transportation Infrastructure Database <https://www.apta.com/research-technical-resources/transit-statistics/transit-infrastructure-database/> ) but I couldn't find any that tracked conveyance equipment uptime - just #s of escalators and escalators per station. Also, the data is kind of stale (2 - 4 years old) and in the case of the Transit Database, the data is only shared with transit agencies.
>  
> In all cases the data collected by these organizations is self-reported by transit agencies and only minimally validated by error checking.
>  
> Ok fine gatekeepers, I guess if you want something you have to do it yourself. So my second step was to go to a few websites for major systems that have subways/transit tunnels like New York's MTA and Chicago's CTA.
>  
> I didn't find much summarized elevator/escalator uptime data, which I assume is because
> Agencies are not required to report it to the Feds as far as I can tell and;
> the agencies all seem pretty self-conscious about it in ways that sound similar to Sound Transit's presentations on the issue.
> 
> I suspect there's probably some relevant data in board meeting minutes…but I'm going to need a lot more time to manually comb through all that.
>  
> Questions to the group:
> Are you aware of any resources or strategies for finding this information that I missed?
> Do you think it's a worthwhile use of my time to keep digging in with the various transit systems to try to find data?
> 
> Hope this is helpful, thanks! Again, very sorry I won't be able to join tonight. Feel free to assign me some action items.
>  
> Best regards,
> Amy
> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:04 PM Jo Claxton <msjoclaxton at gmail.com <mailto:msjoclaxton at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello BATS,
> Our monthly meeting is on Monday at 6:30pm.
> Here is the meeting link: 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87231952291?pwd=NVpGS0NoOTIvTDcxcjBHREc3cFphdz09 <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87231952291?pwd%3DNVpGS0NoOTIvTDcxcjBHREc3cFphdz09&sa=D&source=calendar&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw087GaNybgx5b_ue0FCJHzw>
> 
> Saunatina and I will update you on the meeting we had with the Port Commissioners regarding the skybridge and airport transit.
> AND, we can discuss more about our next project, vertical conveyances!
> Thanks,
> Jo 
> 
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